I am in the process of researching old time Medicine Shows. I want to write a script and put together an act to market to living history events and trade shows etc.
I have found a number of sources but any extra input will be welcome.
I am cross posting this so apologies in advance.
I have found a number of sources but any extra input will be welcome.
I am cross posting this so apologies in advance.
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 1:26 PMI notice you are in MA...
The Library at Washburn Norlands Living History Center (www.norlands.org) in Livermore ME has a very good collection of patent medicine ephenera. -
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:07 AM>The Library at Washburn Norlands Living History Center (www.norlands.org) in Livermore ME has a very good collection of patent medicine ephenera.<
Next time I'm up that way I'll check them out.
Thanks
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 2:45 PMWe did medicine shows at the Dickens fair in the old days (haven't seen any there lately): 'Dr. Brittanicus' Elixir'. There was another group who did Dr. I.M.A. Miracle Patent Medicines' at the same time. We used to do mountebank shows at Blackpoint and Agoura, too, similar to medicine shows but three hundred years earlier: Doctor Riddipippi of Salamanca, and Dr Melizendro Zaragoza and Schakandagoon the Wonder Yak. -
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 11:06 PMIf you want to see a visual , in a film , check out "Little Big Man"... Dustin Hoffman at one point becomes the shill for a Snake Oil Salesman. It will give you a some ideas on form. Also of worth - from the whole "con man" angle - examine Ryan O'Neal in "Paper Moon", or Newman & Redford in "The Sting" ( The last two are 20th Century , but still will give you the right frame of mind. ) -
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:16 AM>f you want to see a visual , in a film , check out "Little Big Man"... Dustin Hoffman at one point becomes the shill for a Snake Oil Salesman. It will give you a some ideas on form. Also of worth - from the whole "con man" angle - examine Ryan O'Neal in "Paper Moon", or Newman & Redford in "The Sting" ( The last two are 20th Century , but still will give you the right frame of mind. )<
Yes I have or have seen all of these.
Another good one is Lucille Ball doing the Vegavitamin routine. -
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 5:21 PMOn the movie front, even though it's 20th-century like crazy, check out "The Flim-Flam Man"
(George C. Scott, Michael Sarrazin). It's been like 40 years since I saw it, but I'm pretty sure
it's got some useful use-the-shill-to-sell-the-elixir stuff in it.
(Now that we're just free-associating on this topic, notice the "Pirelli's Miracle Elixir" number
in "Sweeney Todd".)
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 4:05 PMAlso check out "The Inspector General" starring Danny Kaye. Lots of good material ther, especially at the beginning.
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:14 AM>We did medicine shows at the Dickens fair in the old days (haven't seen any there lately): 'Dr. Brittanicus' Elixir'. There was another group who did Dr. I.M.A. Miracle Patent Medicines' at the same time. We used to do mountebank shows at Blackpoint and Agoura, too, similar to medicine shows but three hundred years earlier: Doctor Riddipippi of Salamanca, and Dr Melizendro Zaragoza and Schakandagoon the Wonder Yak.<
Are any of these scripts still around?
I have several that I have found - one dating to prohibition times - and I am trying to come up with one of my own that gleans the best from these.
Not to plagiarize but if your going to steal - steal from the best.
What it will be if I can make it work is a Magic act within the Medicine Show format. -
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 9:58 AMI'd have to look and see, its been many years. The form is: Ballyhoo (making noise/performing to gather a crowd), Introduction (Who you are and what you're selling) Entertainment (to keep the audience) Patter (introducing your medicine, telling us where its from what it does: might use charts and pictures before and after or have assistants with illnesses) Demonstration (getting an audience member---a shill---to come up and have the medicine applied and testify) and Pitch (come buy this stuff, a dollar a bottle!) followed immediately by more Entertainment as audience buy the medicine (functions like the church organ playing during the collection in church, but lively and punchy). This is a basic form, you insert your own style and details; forms vary from performer to performer. Entertainment should be noisy and colorful and fun. I had a friend who performed a medicine show selling an 'ancient and mysterious Indian cure-all' he called 'MAN-U-RE' (man-yoooo-reeee, they all repeated) -
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:19 AM
Here's one on YouTube:
youtube.com/watch
(Some folks here may recognize several of the folks in the video... ;) ) -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:31 AMThanks - I find it interesting that he mentions the "quacks" selling Kickapoo Indian Medicine.
The Kickapoo Indian Medicine Company was one of the patent medicine companies that started the medicine show trend. -
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Re: Looking For Some Help
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 6:57 AMI got this link from someone on another Tribe (Buskers and Circle Acts) so I thought I would share it with all of you.
www.folkstreams.net/film,68
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