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  <title>Historical Question - Crossposted from Dickens Fair Snobs - Dickens Fair Folk - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: Historical Question - Crossposted from Dickens Fair Snobs</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mark</name>
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    <id>http://dickensfair.tribe.net/thread/122fd9e6-8639-49f8-8ce8-e483371b0c0e#3ad55879-bd99-4d8c-8cd8-494dc577ba74</id>
    <updated>2009-05-31T02:40:03Z</updated>
    <published>2009-05-31T02:40:03Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Also, the quote does look like "contrived hogwash"...&#xD;
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Since there is no "Sept. 6th" issue for that quote to appear in!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-05-31T02:40:03Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: Historical Question - Crossposted from Dickens Fair Snobs</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mark</name>
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    <updated>2009-05-31T02:38:11Z</updated>
    <published>2009-05-31T02:38:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Thanks!&#xD;
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While your link  to Google led to Vol. XII (1874) which was a touch late for what I was looking for, Google did also have Volume V which covers the date in question.&#xD;
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This actually lets me point out that most of the series from the 1860s - the 1890s is available as .pdf files or for on-line reading through Google. The 1860-1870 stuff all falls within the life of Chas. Dickens Sr. (...the magazine was bequeathed to his son, who continued publication)</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-05-31T02:38:11Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: Historical Question - Crossposted from Dickens Fair Snobs</title>
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    <author>
      <name>MONKS</name>
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    <updated>2009-05-30T19:51:36Z</updated>
    <published>2009-05-30T19:51:36Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Wikipedia has a page on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Year_Round &#xD;
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And specifically notes: &#xD;
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"Nearly 11 per cent of the non-fiction articles in All the Year Round dealt with some aspect of international affairs or cultures, discounting the American Civil War, which Dickens instructed his staff to avoid unless they had specifically cleared a topic with him first."&#xD;
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And if you want to trudge through some of it: ( 633 pages )&#xD;
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http://books.google.com/books?id=zkcJAAAAQAAJ&amp;amp;dq=Dickens+%22All+The+Year+Round%22&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=bn&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=A40hSsSHO4S0MOrszJ0J&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=4&#xD;
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Happy Hunting! ( It frankly sounds like Contrived Hogwash! )</summary>
    <dc:creator>MONKS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-05-30T19:51:36Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Historical Question - Crossposted from Dickens Fair Snobs</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mark</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://dickensfair.tribe.net/thread/122fd9e6-8639-49f8-8ce8-e483371b0c0e#35f8d96c-ac76-4320-85d0-ede337039357</id>
    <updated>2009-05-29T04:39:07Z</updated>
    <published>2009-05-29T04:39:07Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Someone I'm debating in another on-line forum offered the following "Dickens" claims and quote:&#xD;
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One of the most influential British journals of the day was All the Year Round, edited by Charles Dickens. On September 6, 1861, Dickens gave his account of the causes of the war: It was "a question of political power between North and South," he wrote, mostly because of the Three-Fifths Clause of the Constitution, which inflated the congressional representation of the southern-dominated Democratic Party. This allowed the South to effectively oppose the North’s mercantilist agenda of protectionist tariffs, corporate welfare, and central banking (the economic platform of the Republican Party of the time).&#xD;
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Thanks to the protectionist tariff, Dickens wrote, "Union means so many millions a year lost to the South; secession means the loss of the same millions to the North. . . . The quarrel between the North and South is . . . solely a fiscal quarrel."&#xD;
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The source of this claim is a libertarian neo-Confederate quoting another libertarian neo-Confederate.... Both of whom have previously been known to be sloppy in their historical research.&#xD;
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I'm wondering if anyone in our company has access to copies of Dickens "All the Year Round" in the 2nd half of 1861...&#xD;
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...and could check if Dickens actually said anything like this.&#xD;
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Why my doubts? Because Chas.Dickens left no doubt to anyone who read "American Notes" that he was absolutely appalled by slavery, and as pro-abolitionist as the the day was long.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-05-29T04:39:07Z</dc:date>
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